The Act went into force April 1, 2003
Prosecuting 10 year olds
This means that 10 and 11 year olds who engage in criminal behaviour will no longer be dealt with as misbehaving children who need social work assistance, but rather as young criminals who should be punished for their crimes. This means that they must be afforded full Charter of Rights and Criminal Code protection permitting them to be knowingly involved in the criminal process.
There are serious brats ages 10 and 11 who need to be severely punished for their criminal behavior. They can be cruel sociopath. If they commit serious crimes they should go to jail.
KEEP THE YOUNG OFFENDERS ACT they shouldn't stricken what they are doing for the kids. If a young person commits a crime I don't think that they should go to jail for the rest of there life. That is pretty much the same thing as murder.
This subject is just ridiculous because these are still little kids and they have no idea how the Canadian Court System works. I'm 15, and I know hardly anything about the Canadian Court System. Don't make these 10 and 11 year olds go into something they don't know about.
Keep the young offenders act
Young people who commit a crime should go to jail. If you send them to jail the first time, they may think twice before committing another crime. Jail would act as a deterrent.
This is ridiculous! Kids that young will be eaten alive in our Canadian justice act. Sure, they will learn a lesson but what ever happened to good old fashion boot camp!!!
I think ten and eleven year olds now a days know a lot more about what they are "doing" when they commit a crime than we did. Because of the violence on TV and the internet they are able to see it all the time. They should be punished and I don't mean in jail but start off boot camps etc. If they continue to misbehave than increase there sentence. I also think because parents aren't allowed to spank they children any more or feel like they can discipline them because we have this system now that doesn't except this, how are they suppose to punish the kids. So let's not punish these so called "children" that know exactly what they are doing and keep punishing the parents who are spanking etc and see just what this world comes to! Punish them!!!!
Since when has negative reinforcement been condoned for children? Why do they absolutely prohibit teachers from punishing children (only positive reinforcement!), but allow the court system to? I think that is a serious incongruence. I think it is dangerous to send such mixed messages, they do not help. Choose one or the other and enforce it wisely.
I believe that the age of criminal responsibility should be lowered to 10. 10 and 11 year olds may still be young children, but there are a number of them who are committing more serious crimes than in the past. The idea of the YOA, when it was enacted almost twenty years ago, was to make juveniles criminally responsible for their actions and not to be treated like they were just "delinquent" which was considered a psychological problem. Under the old Juvenile Delinquents Act, 7 was the age of criminal responsibility. These days, in the increase of youth violence, I think children aged 10-17 should be prosecuted.
I think it is a disgrace
I think that 10 and 11 year olds are far too young to know what they are really doing! They should definitely not be prosecuted as young criminals. What ever they do, they are many reasons for it, you have to take into account their family problems, or how they have been brought up by there parents. Maybe there parents didn't discipline them properly, or they didn't teach them right and wrong. I think that you really need to consider what the hell you are doing, because this law will change the lives of many young innocent children. And just remember, that if you do prosecute 10 and 11 year olds, they will probably be substituted to a life of crime. But this time it will be much worse, do you really want to do this?
10 and 11 year old have not yet fully learned the concept of right and wrong. They are still very young and punishing them as criminals would be extremely traumatizing. All of the people who say they should be prosecuted obviously don't have children of their own because if they did they would understand that 10 and 11 year olds are much to young to be prosecuted as criminals. they need guidance not traumatizing experiences!
it's not right
Yes I think that children the ages of 10 and 11 years old are now more educated with crime that they will know that the crime they committed is wrong. They should be prosecuted the same way that any other child older is prosecuted. I think that it will help children in the long run if they start at a early age to know when something is wrong that you are going to be prosecuted by the court.
ok, children who are between the ages 10-11 are much more involved with serious things, like violence, but that doesn't mean that they know what the punishments for their actions are! I'm 15 and I don't know what some of them are! if they commit a crime they need guidance, not to be thrown into jail, you've only had 10 years of experience on the earth they have their whole lives in front of them! ok, boot camp maybe, and with a Psychiatrist! not jail with more criminals and guards! its wrong and you should think about this really hard and imagine what's its like for a 10 year old!
I'd like to see more compulsory treatment programs for children who are 10 or 11 and in trouble with the law. Agencies such as Peel Children's Center and Associated Youth Services are offering programs for this age group, both preventative and responsive. While I don't think that "going to jail" is going to help, I DO believe in holding people (even 10 and 11 year olds) accountable for their actions.
Jail is not the solution! These children are 10 - 11, it is obvious that they have social problems that need to be addressed. If you lock them up in jail, they will not receive adequate social rehabilitation. We need to give these kids a second chance and work with them not against them.
kids are kids...whether they are 10, 11 or even 12. They should be able to enjoy life, learn from their mistakes and be taught about the Canadian court system at school.
The YOA actually treats offenders more harshly than the YCJA. Under the new Act, alternatives to custody and even criminal charges are explored and exhausted prior to children being charged. Custody is rare for first or second-time offenders. Fewer children are charged. However, the new law does take into account the fact that younger and younger children are committing more serious crimes and this allows that issue to be dealt with.
This is really really stupid, I think that kids under 12 do not at all need to be subjected to the things that happens in custody facilities....they need to be helped to find a different way of life... how are you going to put 10 and 11 year old kids? No matter what they did, in a place where staff aren't all that good at supervising, with people as old as 16, and some people are even older than 16 because they are doing time for phase one charges, while they are 17 and 18? What is that? Do we really want our children to have to go through that, when there may very well be a way that we can step in and help them choose a different path? Like, for real!
If a child believes that he/she is old enough and mature enough to commit a crime that if committed by an adult can be punishable under the criminal code of Canada, that individual should have to pay the consequences no matter what the adolescence age. If society does not take quick action in punishing the child for an offense that he/she has committed then society is condoning criminal behavior.
If they are old enough to engage in criminal behavior, then surely they should be responsible for their actions.. keep the act!!
KEEP IT UP WITH THE YOUNG OFFENDERS ACT!!!!!
I think that the juveniles are well aware of the law and they play around it very well. The revolving doors of the justice system have to stop. It is time for the parents to take responsibility for their children's crimes. Their names should be published just the same as the adults. No more hiding behind the "names cannot be published because of the Young Offenders Act".
If they don't use the young offenders act then how will young children with bad influences know whether or not what they are doing is right or wrong?! they need to be punished for what they are doing or else they will continue to act out and behave poorly.
I think, that whatever caused the criminal actions, there has to be reason for that. Young kids like that don't have such thoughts on their own. There has to be something, that caused this. I would search for those reasons and try to help those kids. Not only those kids. Kids in the whole world.
Kids the age of 11 and 10 still know the difference between wrong and right there should not be any excuse for committing crimes. They should at least be punished because they will try to do it again and take advantage of the young offenders act. They are not dumb.
KEEP THE YOUNG OFFENDERS ACT...
I 'm a 10 year old and am right now doing an essay on Youth Justice. I can assure you that I never plan to get involved in crime but what I've just read makes me so mad that it is very hard for even me to believe! 10 and 11 year olds should not be treated as young criminals, but should be consoled instead. Because of this new program there will be many more angry teens. RETHINK THIS ACT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Children are growing up and maturing very fast, faster then ever before, and I believe our laws have to adjust to fit the times. Children at a very young age know the difference between right and wrong, and when they commit a crime that's VERY wrong they deserve to have a proper punishment. Do an adult crime? Do adult time.
Listen. Punishment is not a deterrent. Murder rates were the same when Canada had the death penalty Why are we making it more difficult for our youth to rehabilitate? That's what we need. Rehabilitation. Not more punishment. You can slap a bad kid on the wrist as many times as you want. But if they really want what ever it is you won't let them have, they will rebel and do it anyways. We should hold and love your kids not stick them into an adult penitentiary.
I think that they should be convicted as a young offender. Because, some children at the ages of 10 and 11 do think and act much older than their age. Sometimes, they are aware of what they are doing. Therefore depending on the case, if the child is found guilty, he/she should be punished under the YOA
Send them to jail as you would and adult. If I were to murder somebody I would want to be charged the same as anyone else.
If a young child has the maturity to commit a serious crime, then they should be punished accordingly. The young offenders act gives children the excuse to commit crimes simply because they are of a young age. We need to stop covering up for kids that commit murder and make them learn their lesson.
I think that young kids who commit crimes should be punished. They should be sent to a boot camp or something for a few years . They should have to do lots of work around there neighborhood and lots so they will learn there lesson. I know many kids my age (12) who commit crimes in Saskatoon. In my class right now we are learning about the young offenders act. I think many people should take this in to mind about how much crime is being committed by very young people. Thank you for your time for reading my thoughts about the young offenders act. ~thank-you~
Of course it is evident that persons ages 10 and 11 maybe committing criminal acts, but to submit them to the same preceding as an adult, it may seem to be heinous. If a child at that age is committing a serious crime, it should be questioned as to why. Then in doing that, the life style of the child should be considered, but no one is born evil, and guidance and stern parenting could help the child, not putting them in a situation that they would not have a full understanding of the circumstances.
Of course it is evident that persons ages 10 and 11 maybe committing criminal acts, but to submit them to the same preceding as an adult, it may seem to be heinous. If a child at that age is committing a serious crime, it should be questioned as to why. Then in doing that, the life style of the child should be considered, but no one is born evil, and guidance and stern parenting could help the child, not putting them in a situation that they would not have a full understanding of the circumstances.
In Ontario Canada alone, young offenders run free and willing, because the law is on their side. The young offenders act must be changed. Our auto insurance rates, and taxes go up. I THINK NOT......I want to know the names and faces of these young criminals, since I'm paying for their crimes. I figure that if their mind knows what its doing, therefore there's no excuse for their behavior.
Murder is murder no matter how you look at it. It's the killing of another human being which is wrong. No matter your age, if you can actually commit such a serious crime, then in that case they are able to do the time for the crime.
I think the children these days are criminals because they don't get enough attention at home.
GET RID OF THE YOUNG OFFENDERS ACT AND BRING IN THE DEATH PENALTY!!
In today's society filled with criminals, murderers and rapists it is important to eliminate the problem before it can manifest itself into today's young minds. Society blames television and the media for warping the minds of younger children yet one of the most powerful people in the world declared war on a country looking for things that might not exist, bombing innocent civilians in search of a single man. He could be considered one of the most influential person on the planet because he is running the most powerful nation in the world. We should look beyond the so called smaller problems of our world and focus on the much more bigger issues at hand. People in Canada are far more obsessed over a man marrying a man than to worry about a war going on, and game shows give away thousands of dollars in prize money to people who eat and do outrageous things for mere moments while people in third world countries starve everyday with nothing to eat, suffering more than a person who gets publicized. Now we have gone as far as to persecute children ages 10-11 for criminal acts that could stay with them and haunt them for the rest of their lives. We can't just throw someone away for a crime when innocent civilians are suffering. How can we expect youth to act right when the world is swirling into a deeper hell hole than we know?
I believe that some 11 and 10 year olds in Canada and other places are capable and willingly doing stupid criminal acts and they DO know what they are doing. I think a child of 11 or 10 years of age should be reprimanded the same way a 17 year old should be reprimanded by the justice system. To me if a child is old enough to talk back to me, he is old enough to get a beating. Same goes with a crime, if he is old enough to know what right and wrong is he should suffer the consequences accordingly.
note from the editor: To refer to some previous comments, does this belief solve the problem of youth crimes? Or does it encourage it in a negative way?
I think that the YOA is a little too soft to these kids, and sometimes there to hard I believe that most kids deserve a second chance. There just kids, but they still do crime! It's up to the adults and older children to help teach these kids what there doing!
I think they should bring in the death penalty because the crime rate will go down and the kids wont commit crimes.
I myself am 15 and I have younger brothers around that age. kids 10 and 11 know exactly what they are doing. they know what the consequences are. If they don't then maybe we should address the problem of- you know- maybe EDUCATING them? To say they are too young to go to jail is not right. A crime is a crime. Would you be defending them if it had been someone you cared about that the crime had been committed against?
There should not be a set age of criminal responsibility at all. Each individual offender should be psychologically assessed, and then the course of action should be decided. Every young person is different, we can't lump them all together in specific age groups. They grow mentally and emotionally at various rates, just as they do physically.
note from the editor: This interesting remark brings up a strong argument, should the young offenders act be based upon maturity of the individual person rather then their physical growth?
OK this is absurd! 10 and 11 year olds are still little children. I agree that they know what they are doing and that they should have to face up to the things that they do, but sending them to jail is Ridiculous. These kids are going to go into the jail system for minor crimes and come out completely corrupted!! Jail is going to harden these children so much that they wont be able to come out and lead normal lives. Picture yourself as a 10 year old who made a bad call and now your stuck in a small jail cell without your mom and dad. Do you have ANY clue how scary that would be? Why don't you just kill the kid?! A 10 year old is just starting into a live and just starting to get on their own 2 feet. They need their parents. You want to punish a 10 year old? TAKE AWAY THEIR TV! That all you have to do to convince your child that they need to behave. And if a 10 or 11 year old DOES commit murder, ask the parents where the hell they were. I'm sure you'll find that a parent who teaches their children to hurt others is a far better candidate for jail time then a 10 year old kid is!
I think the act is right
I think at that age it is totally ridiculous parents need to try and look after their children more to keep them out of trouble at 10 and 11 years old.
They are being unreasonable! They think that they own everything when they probably don't even know how to count to 20. Push and punch and swear at older or younger people! This has to be stopped!
I'm 15 and I'm doing a persuasive essay on young offenders and I believe that when you commit a crime you should be punished! ESPECIALLY when it gets to the extent of murder, not only that but also that 10-12 year olds know exactly what they're doing. Therefore their actions should have consequences.
It should be depended on maturity of whom committed the crime. If the young offender knows what he exactly doing, and he knows that it is wrong, then he should be prosecuted. Otherwise, educate them with knowledge of law, so that they could begin a new live.
Kids that are 10-11, they don't know what they are doing, so by questioning them, we can figure out why they got such ideas. We have to be careful with kids that age.
Hi, I'm 16 and I believe yes, kids can be brats, or as one person commented, a cruel sociopath. But they ARE kids...they are called kids for a reason...because they ARE NOT adults. Adults have developed brains which most of the time allow them to process and analyze info better than kids. If at all possible kids should be kept out of the Justice system. I believe rehabilitation is the key for these kids who may be traumatized or have emotional burdens or just are bored. They should get therapy and see counselors. Don't throw 10-11 year old kids in jail!!
I'm studying law, and whoever thinks its right to murder someone else, deserves to Die, however harsh it may seem, its the truth!! Bring back the Death Penalty
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
this is a very stupid idea, a 10-year-old is just in it for the fun, if something goes wrong they can't be held responsible for their actions. THEY ARE 1O!
I think that 10 and 11 year olds know what they are doing! They aren't stupid! they should add the death penalty just as they do us adults. I know a 11-year-old who turned to drugs, crimes and that lead him to the crips now he is in the pen!
note from the editor: just one error I left in in order to remind you; there is no death penalty in Canada for "us adults". Therefore, is this physical evidence that adults are more inclined to view young people, rather then adults as "criminals"?
I think that the kids should be punished. They are old enough to understand that doing a crime will get you in trouble. They shouldn't have harsh punishments, but should serve time. They should be shown what it is like to be in jail.
Personally, I feel that the consequences for young offenders are way to slack. They need to be punished more for the crimes they commit. If they get let off to easily they will not learn from their mistakes and will most likely do it again because there was no consequences.
The system doesn't work! The consequences for youth and adults don't make sense. How is a jail sentence rehabilitation? It's not, prison is a place where people learn new ideas form other criminals. Especially young people whom are very influential.
I believe that children between the ages and 10 and 11 should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They are taught the differences between right and wrong and they should be able to accept any consequences that they might deserve if they commit any offence against the community. There should be no expectations but for some reason there are. Before the YCJA and the YOA there was the Juvenile Delinquent Act which called for no less than 7 years old to face charges of they commit an offence. Criminal prosecution of 10 and 11 year olds will assist Canadian Society. Did everyone know that Canada's youth crime rate is getting higher so we need to crack down.
I DO NOT think that 10 and 11 year olds should be treated as criminals...even though they can commit the must inhumane crimes, they have not fully matured and don't have the thinking processes of an adult. I think it should be taken in to consideration, what are the parents/guardians are doing or not doing for these children?? What is the society or environment they are being exposed to? We, as a society, are setting these children up, they are not born killers.
I think they must be charged with something because they deserve what they did. Also, they know what they are doing because if they were at school, they would pass the subject.
As long as there remains an emphasis on punishment, we will not make any progress towards the resolution of youth crime in Canada. This has long been supported by statistics, testaments from front line workers, and the Canadian youth themselves. Individuals concerned with the welfare of the Canadian populace, and who have direct contact with the public should be making decisions concerning public policy. The age old adage, out of site is out of mind, remains strong and true. I would hope that we are not so ignorant as to ignore the lessons learned from punishment practice in the United States. To afford 10 and 11-year-old's the right to be punished, yet hold them ineligible for other rights by virtue of their young age is both abhorrent and incorrigible. Open your eyes and think of the future, if this is done, and one is honest, the answer will be obvious.
A person with the mentality to do wrong should be punished as just. Age does not always shroud innocence.
I Feel that there are some serious problems in 10-11 year olds who can commit a crime and if the punishment is to go to jail then I support it. Just because their so young doesn't mean that they can take responsibility for their actions. If they just get a slap on their wrist every time they do something wrong then what's going to stop them from doing something far worse, like murder? If you do something wrong you should be punished for it. It doesn't matter if you know how the court system works or if you don't. You usually know when you're doing something wrong and what the consequences are by breaking the law.
I think they should be punished for doing wrong. They know the difference. We have young 10 and 11 year olds kidnapping younger children and murdering them! If you ask me they SHOULD go to jail. You can't leave that unpunished!
Children that are aged 10 and 11 should be prosecuted for their crime accordingly. At this age the parent should have been able to teach right and wrong and been able to tell the child what happens if they disobey the law. Should there be evidence that the child was not raised properly with a fully capable parent, then it will be more of the parents responsibility, as the child was not fully aware of their actions. The blame lays with both the parents and the child depending on the case.
The young offenders should be changed to deal with the attitudes of young people today. Some of the young children today feel that they can get away with in-appropriate behavior and are aware of services available to them. No, children should not go to prison, however there should be a place where they can go i.e. a prison for young offenders that allows the children to still be schooled while at the same time dealing with their behavior problems. Not punishing children for extreme acts of violence and/or law breaking behavior is not going to stop the problem, it may actually encourage it. People that feel children should not be punished for their crimes are weak minded and do not realize what the real world can be like, especially if the behavior is not stopped early on.
I think that punishing a 10-11 year old is stupid. You have to understand that some of these kids come from very bad family's or just haven't been taught not to do these offences.
The young offenders act should go. It's just like saying if a 30 year old man murdered someone, he's in jail for life. But if a child murders someone they are given community service or something like that! Murder is murder and a bad crime deserves a bad punishment!
Do you really think that 10 and 11 years old should be known as a criminal? Now if their act was completely wrong than of course. But they're just children people
The 6 o'clock news seems to be force feeding Canadian Society. We as a society tend to scapegoat and visible minority groups by labeling them as deviant. Right now we are focusing on youth. The news media has many trends, one is that they fail to report the social issues and over report the idea that crimes are committed because of individual evils. What I think we need to focus on is a more social understanding of youth crime. What will locking up 10 and 11 year olds do? Nothing...just hurt them more and hurt society more.
If these children are old enough to commit the crimes then they are old enough to be punished for them. Do I think they should keep the Act? There's less chance of a child re-offending if he knows he won't get away with it. Besides, they always think they should be getting more independence...
I am appalled by these people saying that kids aged 10 and 11 should go to jail for committing crimes. They are barely even old enough to plan a surprise party let alone a tactical theft or anything like that. They don't realize what they are doing. Therefore, they should be taught better so they can live a happy and full life....
they should keep the young offenders act
I think if we start putting children in jail it's just going to give spark to these kids violent behavior. I am 16 and I think kids usually get themselves in trouble by rebellion because they feel hurt or sad and just want some attention from their families. We need to start addressing this problems in a peaceful way not by putting them in jail where they will most likely be abused and mistreated in an un-just way. Canada needs to wake and see that most kids get this behavior from TV, there own homes even the governments do not set good example for the young youth. These problems are far more deep then kids commenting criminal crimes it is our society. and far as I'm concerned even the people who make the laws are corrupted so no wonder it's just rubbing off on kids! We need to act like a big family and love each other not hate cause the world has all the hate it could possibly need.
We think that young people are old enough to be treated the same as adults in courts. If a child is raised properly they should know right from wrong in all cases. If they can do an adult crime, then they should get the punishment that and adult would. Send them to jail, put the crime on their criminal records, maybe they will think twice about doing it the next time!
I think the kids aren't getting the punishment they deserve, especially if they commit murder, attempt murder, sexual abuse or man slaughter. Kids can just be in jail for 10 years but and then leave with the same heart, EVIL. I am only 14 so I am not some adult who hates kids. Yes, I think that kids under the age of 18 do participate in criminal activity. Look around our whole world is full of violence and destruction. Why are we teaching kids these things? All the violence in video games, TV., movies...etc.... kids learn form all of this. Personally, I think that it is partly the adults, (producers,.....etc..) fault. There the ones who introduce us to these things. Maybe they should look and think, what does this really do to the kids? Thanks.
I feel that the Young offenders act is too soft, this means that many young kids are getting away with senseless crimes, and Canadian society deems them as children seeking attention. While this may be true, we need to remember that in these days violence is increasing.
I think that a kid that age would know the difference between right and wrong and should be treated in such a manner.
I don't think that 10 and 11 years old should go to jail, but I defiantly think that they should be punished some how for there actions. If they do not learn now that there are consequences for there actions then they will only get worse. But jail defiantly isnít the answer. I think that maybe they should have to do something good for their community like weed gardens or maybe even pick up garbage in their local park. If it is summer then they should have to go around to peoples houses and volunteer to shovel there walkway.
I think that young kids should have to go to jail if they do something bad I'm 12yrs old and I went to jail for 60 days for stealing a car. Now days young kids like me could get away with murder. If adults get punished for doing bad stuff we should get punished for following in there foot-steps. We are old enough to know right from wrong . I learnt the hard way.
I agree with some of these people. you can't just throw a "child" in prison. Some kids don't understand what their crimes can cost them until they do the time and this is especially true for some ten and eleven year olds . I think they do it because they are trying to" be cool" and to be "cool" in society sometimes means doing the wrong thing. There is so much pressure in our community for young people to go do and sell drugs or steal some person's wallet without getting caught. Back in the 50's it wasn't so popular, but this isn't the fifty's anymore and things have changed. Television is a major influence to people of all ages as well as the internet. They are exposing crime to young people as if it were a good thing and to me it's simply wrong. Many adults see this as entertainment, but to a pre- teen or a young child it can be a lot more than entertainment. Think about this: you have lived long enough to know the difference between right and wrong, but to a child this may be the only parental guideline they will ever receive that tells them the difference between right and wrong. Hollywood likes to "spice" up a movie or television show by adding more negative factors to it to keep their viewers interest levels high. Instead of allowing younger kids to view movies and shows with these elements within I think that the "parents/guardians" shouldn't allow children to be exposed to this kind of trash until they are old enough to know what's right and wrong. You also need to consider their home life and how they were raised. Is it a child who has never received any positive influence and simply doesn't know how he or she should act or is it a child who was brought up right and become a rebel ? You also have to think about the stableness and security of the child's environment. I believe that if a kid doesn't feel safe that they are more likely to do drugs to try to escape the pressure of their lives. One more thing to consider is if the child has been abused either sexually or physically. If the young offender has abused then the chances of them being a sexual or physical abuser to others is highly increased. I think that these factors should be considered before locking a child up.
I believe that the 10 and 11 years old should go to jail. because now all of the violence and stuff that they see on television and such well, heck I wouldn't blame the Canadian Society. Young kids are 10 and up and they should be well aware of what could happen if they do such things and me personally I think that if you put a kid(s) in jail hopefully they think twice about do things that result in going in front of the Jury. They shouldn't feel perplexed either because if they do things that they now personally that they are wrong and they continue with the acts then they should be in jail.
I used to not believe that the Young Offenders Act (or the Youth Criminal Justice Act) should even exist, however I have changed my opinion somewhat. I believe that it should exist, however penalties should be increased. By the ages of between 10 and 12, children DO know the difference between right and wrong. A crime is a crime. An illegal act needs to have a punishment...and if it takes a punishment that is equal to one that an older person would receive so that children LEARN from their mistakes, then so be it.
I think it is good if 10 and 11 year old's were punished a little better in Canada.
I agree with getting rid of the YOA. I think when a child commits a crime and only gets community service, then it provokes them to commit the same crime or an even bigger one. They think well, if I got away from this one I can do another and another and nothing will happen to me. I think if they spent a few nights in jail or boot camp they would realize that there is consequences and maybe they won't do it again.
I am writing an essay on the prosecution of young criminals for my English Language Arts 10F class, taking the side that 10 and 11 year olds ARE in fact responsible for the crimes they commit. For those of you who are interested I will be posting it on this web page on Friday.
I am 14 years old and yes, I think that saying children under the age of 12 should not be held responsible for the crimes that they commit is ridiculous.
I mean you could be 11 years old and 365 days and if you were to go outside a police station in broad daylight and shoot a policeman in the head and you would not be charged! According to the law you did not do it and you have no sense of what's moral and what's immoral. You don't understand.
Yet when you turn 12 the next day some how overnight your sense of right and wrong magically is granted!
This law MUST change. Especially if this child is not a first time offender.
When I was eight I knew the difference between right and wrong and that consequences would be given if I broke rules. I may not have understood the justice system but my morals were still there.
We don't want the face of the future to be those of criminals. We have to stop this problem before it starts.
The number of young offenders is on the rise, I think that this law is partially to blame. Children can get away with crimes and the only consequences will be the ones there parents put in place. I mean if I could commit a crime and simply be grounded or have my favorite toy taken away as the only punishment. If I were still that young I'd think I could get away with it again, because I could.
If a child is able to handle committing a crime I think they are able to handle the consequences of their actions.
Most children know what a crime is by the time they are ten. And knowing that its a crime the age should therefore be lowered BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!
People who say its the kids parents should just be reminded that everyone has parents and family problems. Even when your older than 10 and 11 what's the difference if you're 12 u still have family problems.
note from the editor: This point should be considered; how is an eleven-year-old differ from a person whom has recently turned twelve?
When I was 10 and everyone I knew whose ten (or younger who doesn't have a mental disability) knows you don't just do these horrible things like commit a crime.
I don't think that a 10 and 11 year-olds should be young criminals because their minds are not fully developed and that they should still be considered misbehaving children. what are 10 year-olds doing in court?
With today's lifestyle....EVERYTHING IS WRONG!!! With all the technology and commercialism, no wonder these poor children are acting the way they are! I say keep the act! A crime is is crime! No matter how old they are! But its like teens, if u tell them not to smoke, then the chances are, they will smoke! The same thing goes for these little kids! This might only promote them! I say send them to boot camp! Because I know once u go there, u don't ever want to go back!!!
if they are old enough to do the crime, they are old enough to pay for it.
I think that you should maybe go to rehabilitation for their crimes. Giving people the death penalty does not really solve the crime. Also know killing more people is making the population growth rate even smaller because you are killing more people than you need to kill.
10 and 11 year olds DO know what they're doing... or they should if their parents have ever taught them anything... I know that even when I was 7 years old I knew right from wrong.
I agree with you. At school we're doing debates on this very interesting topic. We to believe that innocent children should not be punished as adults in the court of law. But we also believe that older children and young teens know what they are doing and need to be stopped, and face the consequences. If you have any other info on this matter, please post it as it will help my friend and I prove to our society and hopefully the government , that these young children should face justice. And hopefully it will help us win our debate!
I do believe that at the age of 10 and 11 a young person knows the difference between right and wrong. There can be different ways in punishing these young offenders but yes they should be penalized accordingly such as boot camp, schooling, but in a jail setting they should get a jail sentencing but make them learn something.
Are you crazy. I'm 16 and have an 11 year old brother who can be pretty nasty. but 10 and 11 year olds are no more or no less than misbehaving children no matter what anybody says. I don't believe someone was born to be a criminal.
What if our education system explained what is considered right and wrong to kids and showed the consequences to them .We should focus resources to issues like bullying . Support young victims and educate potential young offenders before its too late for them . The money should be spent before its time to punish .Otherwise all you have is an endgame industry . Good luck kids .
I think its a good idea. They may not be ready for the punishment but it will stop even more trouble that they would cause when they are older if they don't get punished. Even though 10 and 11 is still young it's not to young to know when your doing something criminal or not. You don't have to understand the court system to understand your actions.
well is this the same punishments for 10-11year olds committing crimes in England? reply quick as i have an essay due tomorrow on this!! please
If a 10 or 11 year old commits a crime, the issue shouldn't be on how they are going to be punished, but instead on why they committed the crime. Are they victims of a marginalized society? What are the real issues, and how can we help these children heal. it is not only victims that need healing but also the offender especially 10 or 11 year olds.-Nicole 24yr.
10 and 11 year old kids and still only young. Sure they can still do things that are wrong, and serious, but perhaps the system should be working to find some other way to punish them, other then giving them a taste of the real world before they are ready.
hey, i work in a group home for abused/abondend youth. and i can say is some of the kids i have met at the age of 12, have been criminals since 8.
I don't think there is much criminal activity amongst 10 and 11 year olds. All persons under the age of 18 must be held accountable for their actions and possably to a greater extent than present laws. 10 and 11 year olds are children period, maybe the odd very troubled 10 or 11 year old but still a child. As for the 12 to 17 year old group, each case needs to be judged according to its' factors.
The YOA may have been an effective system 15 yrs. ago. However, childeren are becomming more "street-wise" at a younger age these days. In particular, gang association/activity has increased. 10 & 11 yr. olds are not the youngest when it comes to this involvement. They know it is wrong to disrespect the law, give police officers "the finger", and bully other childeren on the playgrounds who do not understand or live the "gang lifestyle". For example, my 8 yr. old daughter & I were having a picnic in the park with my friend & her 6 yr. old daughter. We were minding our own business when a girl who appeared to be age 10, followed by a couple others, headed straight for my daughter while throwing water at her from a pop bottle, then the girl threw the bottle on the ground and helped herself to my daughters meal (right out of her hands). I grabbed the food from this kids hands (to make my point) and told her that she couldn't have it, it didn't belong to her. Later this "gang-type" kid called me names, and swore at me. Nice. I'll bet if she didn't know better (highly unlikely), that it was time that she did. C'mon, do we need to tollerate this? So what ...they have a hard life....Their parents are in jail, They have FAS....I'm getting board with all these excuses. Being a recovered drug-addict of 12 yrs., I know what it's like. Get real. Next time she'll likely stab someone. Our justice system has been nicey-nice for to long with the hope of 'breaking -through the dameged exterior of the child' to uncover a child with dreams, goals, and integrity. That's a nice theory, it really is. In the mean time, our Country should pay some attention to the childeren who already have dreams, goals, and integrity....so they don't get stabbed in the park. I think it is our RIGHT to be protected, to live in a safe society that will not tollerate this garbage. Why not make it a serious offence to conduct "gang-type" behaviour? Catch it at a young age & send the brats to boot-camp? Separate them from each other. Why not stop the behaviour from escalating? It's no secret that something has gone terribly wrong in our juvinile justice system. I think it's time to do something about it. Remember Serrina Nicotine? How long ago was it that she was able to get away with murder, TWICE? Did the Young Offenders Act help her? That was a while ago, so she must be a better person now right? get real. Get rid of the Young Offenders Act. Get tough Canada!
Criminals must be treated like criminals, but in the same token, children must be treated like children. Depending on the severity of the crime, I would agree that even young children must be held accountable for their actions, especially nowadays. But, when other older children are involved, I believe that the younger ones are the most easily influenced and should be dealt with differently. Every case has a different set of circumstances, but when a serious crime occurs, I believe there is only one chance to rehablitate thatchild and that must be kept in mind.
The young offenders act, should kept. Although moore positive people need to be put in place to assist these young people to help thier problems. People such as, teachers, social workers, role models etc. I am usre the are already is, but not every one is getting help. mike
i think that the young offenders act is very stupid because at the age of 10 or 11 is still to young to realize wat they did or do is wrong i also think its stupid b cuz u never no like if some kid was in jail with some old man thats not safe cuz maybe wen ur asleep he might try and rape u while ur asleep but wat can we doo its not like we can change
At the age or 10 I knew right from wrong. The prosecution of 10 ywars olds will greatly assist Canadian society. If a ten year old does a small act of crime and is punished for it then that may prevent a more serious crime later on in life.
i dont think it fair to be doing that to young offenders.
What I bolive about this is that if they have a mine for bad and doing bad they choude be punished as an adult that they think they are.
am looking for some help to dealing with a troubled 15 year old... he is out of control and i need to find some help in getting proper disciplinary actions taken... a boot camp in canada, bc...
I think it is Great idea 11 adn 12 know what there are doing is wrong so thet shoudl be punshied harder.
i think it is worong for 10-11 s to do such a thing
thay are kids who are in a lot of troubel
see the way i see it is any one should be in the Young offenders act .........................................................................
dont change - what you have now is good - keep it
hi ithink that kids under11 should know what is right and what is worong sooo the young off enders act shuld start at the age of 6 li*
I think the young offender act is the right thing to have because if u bring in the deth pentaly that you would be killing people that maby just grafeted or stole somthing the only thing that needs deth peaty is people who has assulted, murderd. THATS ALLLL NOTHING ELSE
Criminal prosecution of 10 and 11 year olds will not assist Canadian society, unless they are mentally capable of the crime. The intellegents rate of a 10 or 11 year old compared with previous society's (non-information) has grown. What presidence could imprisioning a 10 or 11 year old prove? It is not the young offender, there is something wrong with society as a whole. Universally we are depleating our moral statue, and common sense. Family stereotypes have changed, and therefore our morals. Sexual preference has also upset the natural balance. Suddenly society thinks it is okay to have multiple partners, as long as no one gets hurt. Then society wonders why young children rebel, and abortion rates are so high?! It is one big domino effect.
10 & 11 Year olds are still dependent children and should not be tried as adults or even as youths. We should be investigating the child's caregivers, and their environment to ensure the child is receiving proper care and guidance. I bet in most cases the child has been severely neglected, abused or exposed to crime and poverty throughout it's childhood, and does not know any better. Sending the child to jail will only expose them to more negative environment which will cause future behavioral problems and the individual may end up in and out of the Criminal system their entire life. Perhaps the caregivers should suffer some consequences... and there should be programs in place to provide the child with education and guidance help the child to get back on track, and prevent future offences.
i think young kids should not get away with anyhting wat eva age and no matter wat the crime every crime is going to hert someone so you no lets deal with it now before kids get away with it and over rule us
There criminal behavior should not be tolerated, beause they are causing diturbance to the parents and the police.
No childern under the age of 11 should not be tried as adults for the crimes they commit
there is no evidence that children engage in serious crimes, therefore they should be treated as children, not as adults. They should recieve the maximum pentalty that is allowed for a child but not as an adult. Yes, they should pay for their crimes but childhood and puberty are hard enough to deal with as a child, let alone being expected to pay penalty for childhood crime on an adult level. Criminal prosecution will assist the canadian society BUT not on children who are only just learning right from wrong. if the crime is so bad then simply add a harsher penalty NOT a maximum sentence. FOR GODS SAKE THINK ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN BEFORE YOU SCREW THEM UP FOR THE FUTURE!!
im 14 yr old and im here to say: you shoun't care on how they are punished you should be more worried about why they committed the crime.
hi my friend lucy tries to murder someone when she was 10, the boy had cheated on her but the lad escaped wish serious knife wounds. she was a child and is mnow 17 and says she has learned from her actions and didn't nknow what she was doing but she would stab anyone who hurts her again but will now try to kill them just hurt them. this shows she does know what she was doing and as i was 10 at the time i knew that was wrong so she must of realised too. i think she should of got sent down & i hope she don't read this as i am scared of what the consequenses could be. she is a vicous seriaql stabber and i think anyone who comits a crime simular to this should be given the adult life sentence as adults could tell their kids to kill someine they want rid of if they think the child can get off lightly. these lids screw other lifes up so why should they be given a second chance to live their life normally again
i think they should go to jail for being a crimminal
This is ridiclous, children ages 10 and 11 should not be punished in un explainable ways because of their actions, children ages 10 and 11 who do commit criminal activity normally have some kind of family or life problem which cause them to commit to this activity at such a young age. Weither it be marital status between the child's parents, or issues with abuse, even a high stress level expressed in the household can cause a child to engage in such activity. I believe that this new punishment is cruel and unjust and may place some children in a state of shock that can permanetly damage them.
It's about time... Anyone who believes that a 10 year child doesn't understand crime, or what is wrong or right, is either incredibly naive, or just lacks personal experience. My six year old nephew knows exactly what he isn't supposed to do, that doesn't always stop him from doing wrong things, but he knows quite well that there is a good chance of being punished for his actions. And if the offending child doesn't understand the Criminal Code, then so be it, anyone who kills, steals, or harms another doesn't deserve the luxury of such knowledge...Lock them up, because a jail cell is a lot better way to punish young offenders than just a slap on the wrist.
i think this should have been done along time ago
STICK WITH THE YOUTH CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACT. The Young Offencers Act was to easy on kids. Kids learn the different between right and wrong by the time they are 5! Therefore if they commit a crime at 10 or 11 they should be punished because they know it was wrong.
There are some bad kids out there who ned to learn that its not always just a slap on the wrist. as far as i am conmcerened, they should be punished as anyone else.
i think it is a good thing thay should have to do time for there actions adults do so why not 10 or 11 year olds if thay did something bad
I don't agree with this intire act at all. Children no should be taught about the law and charter and whatever else at a young age. knowing that they would be tried and convicted as an adult would make them fear commenting a crime. So the problem does not lie in age it lies in lack of knowledge.
In canadian there are so many crimes there and they should be counted as a crime because if the 10 or 11 year olds don't learn there leason they going do it again and again until they realize that they did something wrong and they want to do it again.
nov 9 2004 iam doing a speech on this stuff this is very helpful. but realy young kid's kill someone they schould go to jail!!!! +
A crime is a crime. what dont you people understand about that. Im 15 and i do know about the system. its stupid and people should pay for what they do.NO SECOND CHANCES. where the second chances for the adults
AS A SOCIAL WORK STUDENT, I CAN SAY THAT CHILDREN THIS YOUNG NEED OUR HELP. OF COURSE THEY NEED TO BE PUNISHED - THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING BUT NO 10 OR 11 YEAR OFFENDS WITHOUT CAUSE
i think children should get the same treatment as adults
I never thought I'd here the words "brat" and "jail" in the same path.
People do not realize that committing a serious crime is basic knowledge. For instance, if a teenager picks up a gun, points it at something, and pulls the trigger, the bullet inside is going to hit or hurt something. And they know that; they see it on cartoons and in the movies.
I agree. Even if they are 10, they should have to pay for their crimes like an adult. go death penalty.
I'm in a high school law class, and the more I learn the more I see that no matter what system you use there will be 10, 11 year olds, hell even 9 year olds who kill and know full well what they are doing. They need to go to a jail. Not some Max jail, but a juvie center and get some SERIOUSE help.
i do not like jail.
all of you make really good points, and I think most of us are stuck in the world were little children are still innocent, but I think that yes they should be punished, but for little ones Jail would be to traumatizing, but yes there are sociopaths out there that are little children, but as older role models we need to teach them right and wrong, their still in their ID faze, and it has been proven that the brain is not compleatly developed until the age of 25 so we should keep the act but keep the children out of the system by teaching them right and wrong,
No, except in extreme cases (manslaughter, murder, sexual offences, or EXTREMELY violent offences), the treatment of 10 and 11 year olds as offenders, and their resultant involvement in the criminal justice system will exaserbate the problem more that it will alleviate their "criminal" behavior. Labelling these young children as "criminals" and "delinquents" will, more likely than not, result in them internalizing that label and assuming the mentality and role of a criminal. We would, in fact, be setting many of them up for a life of crime that they otherwise would not become involved in.
we need to take care of our children now days, there are to much kiling and hate. stop thinking about yourself and think about your kids. Stop wondering and ask.
i think that young citizens should be punished for what they have done but not go to jail if they are that young.
I'm 16 years old and researching young criminals and I do believe the children know that they are breaking the law but it could be the way they were brought up but still they need to take responsibily for their actions. Parents need to watcvh out for their children and make sure they are doing the right thing, which isn't commiting crimes
Recently young kids were placing bricks / boards on gas pedals and using cars as missles and sent one into the side of an apartment building. Luckily there was nobody home at the time. This kind of behavior is criminal and can / will lead to death and should be deterred in the form of criminal punishment. We need stronger penalties for criminal actions in this Country at all ages.
The whole aspect of knowing the difference between "Right and Wrong" I find may come into play here. If a kid is going to commit a serious criminal activity, then A. the kid made the choice to do it. or B. the kid has some kind of brain disfunction. This argument is ridiculous in the fact that some of these posts have been very biased towards the kids. Take murder for example. If a child is going to kill someone, then they have to know that what they are doing is ending someone's life that shouldn't have ended well maybe for another 80 years. Moreover, not just the fact that these children these days know the difference between right and wrong... If they didn't know what the difference is from learning from there parents, then they would certainly learn it from the medias.
I say keep the YOA but throw out different aspects of it. Especially if a kid in scarbourough age 14 kills his parents and sister with a hunting rifle... they should be thrown into prison for the full life sentence... or in the USA it would be the Death Penelty... Kids have to start taking responsibilty some time. and no one else can make them start other then them.
So look deep and try and see who is truly at fault? The young ones or the stupid people that brought them into the world. Would it not better serve all of the society if parents were maybe held responsible? Don't know would not want to live in a social bottle.
I find it funny on how society work these days...Whenever a person does something that would be considered rightfully ''wrong''or ''bad'' or first instinct is to autmatically use violence to solve the problem itself. When will peoples learn that to solve a problem that already involve violence it wont help the fact by ironically solving it with more violence. Theses kids only need to be guided to a way that would be subtitable to society...if this world seam so caotic than atleast try to get to the buttom of the problem by talking about it not by passing judgements. Or society proclaimed to be not a society do judge upon others much less assume things wich I found pretty disgracefull. I am yet a kid myself and I seam to have more maturity than most adults who would rather elliminate the problem than deal with it head on. A problem should be dealt with long term not just thrownen into perspective and not look at. In my opinion peoples in general (NEED HELP TO EXPRESS MORE THEIR EMOTIONS THAN ACTUALLY JUST USE VIOLENCE TO SOLVE IT)So next time think twice before even passing judgements on others on their actions...have you ever tougth their was a reason why behind this?If not than my point has been proven in on how peoples in general just tend to give up on peoples too easy!
people who are young like ages 10 and 11 who do serious crimes shoule be punshed as an adult so they know whats it like. not get off easy cause they will do it again and no there not gonna get harsh punisments when really they should
an 11 year old should be punnished for this act of behaviour- the same as a grown men/women! I am appuled by the YOA! An 11 year old should know whats right or wrong im 12 years old and i know. We cant have little children walking the streets with guns shooting people ir stealing!