The Great Young Offenders Act Debate

The debate for November 2000 is:

Analyze the positions taken by Stockwell Day and the Canadian Alliance on Justice Issues. Interview a Canadian Alliance candidate in your riding. Are these positions representative of Canadian young persons?

  1. Youth Justice
  2. Marriages and Family
  3. International Criminal Court Bill C-19
  4. Sex before age 18

Youth Justice
See: http://www.canadianalliance.ca/platform_en.txt

- A new approach to youth justice
Youth violent crime has doubled since the introduction of the Young Offenders Act. We will focus our crime prevention efforts and resources at the front end of the system. Education for kids at risk is essential to reach young people before they end up trapped and hardened in the correctional system. But the youth criminal justice system must separate out serious young criminals, while helping troubled youth to be rehabilitated and become contributing members of society. A Canadian Alliance government would automatically send 16 and 17 year olds to adult court, as well as 14 and 15 year olds charged with the most serious crimes. We would end the secrecy around young offenders and allow for greater public accountability.

Marriages and Family:
See:
http://www.canadianalliance.ca/platform_en.txt

"Continuance and preservation of society is dependent upon man/woman marriages. Other relationships are not hindered in any way by the marriage of man and woman.".

See:  http://www.familyaction.org/Articles/marriage.htm

Marriage - Will you take all necessary legislative measures to protect the definition of marriage as "the union of a man and a woman to the exclusion of all others" including using the 'notwithstanding' clause or amending the constitution?

 

Read What Other Have Said


City:
Mississauga, ON
Date:
07 Nov 2000
Time:
15:38:25

Comments

The statement above "Youth violent crime has doubled since the introduction of the Young Offenders Act." is totally inaccurate. There is no empirical data which supports the view that youth crime has increased in Canada since 1984.


City:
Mississauga, ON
Date:
07 Nov 2000
Time:
15:40:07

Comments

The statement above "We would end the secrecy around young offenders" implies that there would no longer be secrecy for young persons acquitted.


City:
Mississauga
Date:
21 Nov 2000
Time:
10:29:57

Comments

The Alliance is a crock. Stockwell Day's views are so out of date. Especially how he wants creationism taught at public schools, where no religious teachings are supposed to occur. He probably thinks the Flintstones was a documentary.


City:
Oakville
Date:
24 Nov 2000
Time:
22:15:18

Comments

Oh my, don't be too quick to judge. I agree with Stockwell Day on a lot of issues, and I am only a teen. So if stockwell Day is "so out of date"--I guess the young ones in the country are already out of date also...or maybe he has convictions and morals in his life that he cares about enough to stand up for. Maybe you should look at yours and see if you feel the same way. Just a thought.


City:
Fergus
Date:
27 Nov 2000
Time:
09:56:10

Comments

You're too quick to stereotype us teens. We're not all bad! The Young Offenders Act should be changed, not wiped out. Send us to adult court, yes. But you should still wipe the slate clean for us. If we do something stupid, it may ruin any chance of a future life.


City:
Mississauga, Ontario
Date:
27 Nov 2000
Time:
16:27:15

Comments

I think that it is deplorable that in our progressive nation that we would even contemplate the exclusion of basic human rights to an individual based or his/her sexual orientation. To exclude persons from being recognized under the law as spouses is to deny basic human rights. Also, the protection of privacy in young offenders is to avoid the stigmatization that often follows a criminal charge. If you eliminate this protection our society runs the risk of creating "career criminals" by labeling them as such. Stockwell Day and his Alliance party have obviously not thought too much on their platform and what it means to Canadians. Stacey


City:
Halifax
Date:
27 Nov 2000
Time:
19:03:05

Comments

you know what i think? get rid of the act. I totally disagree with "fergus". If someone does something stupid. It's your own damn fault. You have to face the consequences. It doesn't matter how old you are. Even if you're 10, you still know not to go out on the street and shoot someone in the head, and if you do, well that's your choice. That 10 year old just choose to be a nobody for the rest of his/her's life. When it comes to committing a crime, i firmly believe that no one deserves a second chance. The Young Offenders Act is a temptation for the youth to commit crimes, knowing that they have a good chance to get away with it.


City:
Halifax
Date:
27 Nov 2000
Time:
19:08:39

Comments

as far as the marriage defense act, i disagree with Stockwell Day. I can't even begin to imagine why he'd ever even imply that he's against gays and lesbians. It's a person's choice to whatever sexuality they want to have, you can't change that although Stockwell Day thinks it can be done with counselling. If two women or two men want to get married, why not let them? It's their choice. It doesn't concern anyone except them. Stockwell Day is discriminating against his fellow Canadians who he feels, should vote for him. This is absolutely absurd. All people should have the right to marriage.


City:
Swift Current
Date:
29 Nov 2000
Time:
20:53:48

Comments

i think that the young offenders act seems to have some holes in it... then again you may think differently then me... i've been researching the young offenders act and somethings i just don't understand.. it's amazing how many different views people actually do have in this... so in the act is says that the adult is responisble for the child but that's not always the case??? it shouldn't matter what a child does.. if you make one kids parents responsilbe then keep with it.. I don't think parents should be held responsible.. but i do agree that if maybe i didn't have such great supportive parents maybe things would be different??? it's a good thing the "notwithstanding" law was brought into affect in 1982.. or we'd be stepping all over the Charter of Rights with the young offenders act.. Well yeah just htought i'd but my 2 cents in.. i've got more concerns about this act though....


City:
Montreal
Date:
05 Dec 2000
Time:
18:02:01

Comments

According to Peter J. Carrington of the Canadian Journl of Criminology, youth crime rates in 1996 were back to the same as 1983 when the YOA was first issued. It reached an all-time peak in 1991, and then dropped from then to 1996. Therefore, saying that youth crime has doubled is innacurte in Canada. Shame on you for your unworthy statistics!


City:
Peterborough
Date:
11 Dec 2000
Time:
14:30:09

Comments

stockwell day is a individual who thinks that peoples rights should belong to him and what his party think and not necessarily what the public thinks or wants


City:
Ajax
Date:
18 Dec 2000
Time:
21:57:06

Comments

I'm a teen and I do agree. The Young Offenders Act is BS. It's just another way people have of getting away with things. I'm sorry but the average 13-year old knows that to blow somebodys head off is a bad thing and should suffer the consequences anybody else would. Teens are not that dumb we know the difference between right and wrong and are willing to pay for the consequences of doing wrong. Teens should not be treated as if they were still sitting around in diapers. Unfortunetly we are and therefore some teens take advantage of this. I mean come on teens need to realize that there are consequences for stupid mistakes.


City:
Ottawa
Date:
21 Dec 2000
Time:
10:25:01

Comments

I am a sixteen year old teenager, and I think that they YOA is far too lenient and doesn't really do anything to prevent the youth involved from re-offending. Over 50% of young offenders reoffend. Having said that however, I don't think that young offenders should receive the same treatment as an adult would. I can not say how sorry I am that Bill C-3, The Youth Criminal Justice Act, was dropped. Having read the basic terms and policies of both acts, I feel that they YCJA is a definant improvement to the YOA, and should become law.


City:
Ottawa
Date:
21 Dec 2000
Time:
10:40:19

Comments

I think that what is taught in school about the beginning of the world is a delicate issue that should not be taken lightly. In Canada, we are clearly taught to treat everyone equally, and with dignity and respect, regardless of their personal beliefs. If creationism is the only thing, in regards to where we came from, that is taugh in schools, then we're just doing the same thing that we've been doing all along with the theory of evolution. If we teach the Judeao-Christian creation story, then we must also teach evolution, and the creation stories of all of the other major religions of the world. Please do not misunderstand, I like the idea of teaching creationism in schools, but the beliefs of some cannot be forced on everyone. Some high schools have thought of an excellent solution to this on-going debate, they have a world religions course that can be taken by whoever wants to take it, and this course gives a general description of all of the major religions of the world, their beliefs and religious practices, and their histories. Why not simply offer this course in most high schools, were people can see all of the worlds major religions in a equal if they want to, and put less of an emphasis on evolution in other classes, unless they will also show the many, many holes in the well-known theory.


City:
Ottawa
Date:
21 Dec 2000
Time:
10:42:02

Comments

We should be trying to move forward, but what the Alliance wants to do would move us back 50 years!! Having a Referendum on Abortion and capital punishment?? It would tear the country apart!!!! 


City:
Toronto, Ontario
Date:
25 Jan 2001
Time:
19:35:20

Comments

I think that they should keep the YOA, because if there wasn't, they would have to learn by going to adult court, and in adult court, they could get raped or something like that, and that will scar them for life. But since the YOA does exist the young teens will get another chance. Yes, I know they should know better, and they should think before they do something stupid like rob a corner store, they haven't reached there full maturity rate, and they are still kids, and they don't know what damage they are doing. I am sick and tired of hearing people saying, it was the kids fault, he shouldn't have shot that person, or he should have known better. These people don't know what these kids have been through, maybe he has been beaten-up after school every day of his school life, and the thoughts that are going through his or her head, are, I want to kill this person, and they will put it into action. ibet that thoughts like that go through your head when your angry, but since you are an adult, you know how to calm yourself down and deal with it like a mature person, but a 13 year old kid doesn't. But if he does he will probebly get his @$$ kicked again, and then he will have a low self esteam, and he might think that he is worth nothing, and tkhey might commit suicide. So I think that there should be a YOA.


City:
Vancouver
Date:
05 Mar 2001
Time:
21:16:02

Comments

I just gotta say that Halifax is clearly delusional. I do not believe in second chances? What the hell is that? I mean everybody gets out of prison eventually, like it or not, so your idea of 10 year olds facing the consequences for their actions is ludicrous. Everyone deserves a second chance because you know what? Most people don't commit a second offense, only a small minority do and that is only going to get worse if we imprison everybody...bizarre!


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